Growing Old or Not
- September 22nd, 2011
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There must be a tipping point in life where the physical will to live overcomes the ennui of life, the disgust with carrying on for one more tedious day. Best to expire before that moment occurs.
For a couple of minutes earlier today I experienced intense heart palpitations–a strong physical awareness of my heart fluttering and convulsing in my chest. I thought, well maybe this is a heart attack. And then, I hope it’s a big one, no desire to linger on and become a cardiac patient. In the span of two or three minutes I found myself feeling peaceful about it. OK, if that’s the way it’s going to happen, then so be it. Simultaneous to all that I was analyzing my symptoms and gradually concluding that this could not be a heart attack. There was no real pain involved, nor the numbness in the arm and so forth that I imagine are signs of a real heart attack. And my heart has been checked over. Yes, it’s been three or four years ago (maybe more), but surely things haven’t changed that much in that amount of time. All this happening in 180 seconds or so, trying to catch my breath, feeling heat in my neck. Maybe it was a panic attack. But the idea that if it had been something serious, that I would be at peace about it was greatly comforting to me.
More terrifying to me is to pass beyond that point where it seems the physical body takes over and demands to persist despite all evidence that one’s usefulness is over. I question the point of prolonging life just to add more days. But will my will resist the pulling down to earth, the inevitable insistence on persistence that the physical body inflicts upon the contents of the mind, or the soul if you like?

Damn.
This is an incredible post–thank you for writing it.
It sounds like your attitude towards death is (what I think of as) remarkably healthy–healthier than mine, certainly. However, I think part of having a truly healthy attitude towards death is having a similarly healthy attitude towards the initiatives of your body–if it wants to stay alive, it should stay alive. If it wants to die, it should die.
That this is different from you-the-subject wanting to stay alive or wanting to die is part of the generalized sickness of our society, which infects all of its members.
If you ask me, which you didn’t. Be well.
Yeah, your attitude about the big thing is better than mine; seems like you’ve reached a place where, most of the time (common for this sentiment to fluctuate, to sit on either side depending on the day, no?) whatever happens, happens, as long as it’s not staving off rotting in a hospital bed.
Maybe we think we can still reach clarity, or do something cool or monumental (macro or micro, that’s up to each individual). I think I had a point, but you know how it is getting old. Heh.
i don’t see that time ..in hosp. bedding.. as rotting .. said the oh so lovely girl… that has spent a lot of time in that bedding ..in her life .. ..of living … / hello ethan ..i was going to get back to you on hoban ..and of.. the animals ..and how they communicate ..imagined and real.. / and to randal, ..i wandered very wee tiny ..of the.. of wooded wee nodding lily that i am .. .through your on and on of mushrooming of photos ..hello.. ..said the girl that has never done any mushrooming ..but has had male friends that do ..
My biggest fear, terror even, is being stuck for years in the half life of the nursing home. Please let it be quick. I am 48 now, and have reconciled with the reality that I won’t live forever…or even all that much longer, probably.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-bOQUQT0QQ&feature=related
There is irony in this, like everything. Would I resist death in pain? Oh yes. And I have good reason to persist. All that interests me is the battle between the will and the body. When the body overtakes the will, what is left?
i feel like this post after the comments ..i mean including them ..(all but me ) should have been called ..men talking about dying like cow boys . .. because the only one that is really talking ..on and of death ..is you john.. .
sorry i don’t know why i was feeling like i was in a western there .. it’s past ..sorry about the comment ..